Discussion Comfy Café #14

Ugh... Utilities like power and water should always stay nationalized.

Let the big AAA game publishers go streaming only, if they wish. Let them sink while CDPR continue to be absolute big brains and indies flourish.

 

But Saitama never lost, he always overpowers his opponents. So if we are looking by consistency of Saitama fights, we can conclude that Saitama is indeed always +1 than his opponents.

If Goku is multiversal, Saitama is that +1 if we apply his logic of what he is.

• When pitted against Cosmic Garou—who could copy anyone's strength—Saitama's baseline power grew faster than Garou could keep up with.

 

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

Recall when they allegedly wanted to make the Switch 2 use proprietary memory cards? Then because of community backlash and hackers threatening to forcefully fukk the code that prevents third-party memory card usage, Nintendo supposedly backtracked on the idea.

 

Now I feel as though you're being obtuse on purpose.

This is all well and good within his own canon, but absolutely meaningless when dealing with powers outside his own canon that have to be measured in multiple orders of infinity and even on the low end the power gap is in the octillions [i.e. has 27 zeros in the multiplier].

I don't feel like giving you a lesson in theoretical physics and high mathematics right now. So I'll leave it at this: Saitama's greatest feats and even growth in power are demonstrably quantifiable. There is nothing within his own canon to indicate that Saitama can grow his power by multiple orders of infinity, unlike with the top god-ki users in DBS, Simon from Gurren Lagann, Sailor Moon's top tiers, or Saint Seiya's biggest hitters. Until he can prove that, within his own canon, he can go from quantifiable to immeasurable, he has nothing on Goku at his current peak.

 

Goodnight, dragon monkey.

 

But we are comparing own canon in this debate, same could be said that Goku's laws don't apply outside HIS canon.

For what we know, Saitama's growth scales to who he faces instantly, and grows faster than the opponent can match, canonically. So in that sense, the second he fights Goku, he is growing faster than Goku while already being on his level no?

Nowhere in Goku canon states something like this.

Saitama has no limits, as far as we know, he can be anything anyone is +1 which was canonically stated in his own universe.

Goku is constantly breaking his limits to be stronger, Saitama mimics the opponent and always beat him, that's his gag. You know One Punch Man.

Also IIRC Saitama was never hurt now when I think about it, might be wrong though

 

You're just continuing with the no-limits fallacy nonsense. Please look up that term, for goodness' sake.

Per your logic, Saitama would instantly exceed someone like Lifebringer Galactus (Marvel) or Eternal Queen Serenity (Sailor Moon) when facing them, which is simply not true, and he would get literally blinked out of existence. His power growth is quantifiable over time; he can't leap multiple orders of infinity instantly.

You also refuse to comprehend that Saitama isn't a toon-force type gag character (like Bugs Bunny or Arale). His gag is that he is already stronger than everyone else within his own canon, and nothing more. Wiz had to explain Saitama's limitations twice in the video so people would comprehend.

You also refuse to acknowledge that Saitama's growth in power was quantifiable, and that when Goku defeated him, the power gap was nigh immeasurable: 2.5e^29 (that is 25 followed by 28 zeros) at the very least to multiple orders of infinity at the most. Saitama was never closing that gap with the demonstrably quantifiable growth rates he has shown so far. I keep telling you that the maths involved is insane.

You fail to grasp another important thing: Saitama has infinite strength, not infinite potential, leave alone multiple orders of infinity. Unless this is contradicted in future source material...

PS:
Yes, Saitama has actually struggled (somewhat). He had to actually put in a modicum of effort against Garou even when vastly exceeding him. He was also only able to one-shot a far weaker Garou who was, at that point, around Saiyan Saga Vegeta level. Saitama had to actually put in some effort against Garou when he was Majin Buu level. Goku is infinitely stronger than that as of the Moro arc. And when I mean infinitely: I mean it; the maths involved is, as I keep telling you, absolutely nuts.

 

But you are simply not right when it's stated otherwise.

Saitama is always strong enough to beat his opponent in a physical fight, canonically!

Saitama always wins against Goku in 1v1. That's his thing, to overpower his opponents, math doesn't matter when Saitama is naratively always stronger as stated in his manga.

Garou is your debunk. Garous thing is that he can copy anyones strength, but he couldn't because Saitama was growing much faster than he can copy which would mean, as soon as Goku goes SSJ 3000, Saitama is already at 3001.

How do you say no limits is fallacy when no limits in his case makes him stronger than Goku by default since Goku has limits?

Also that deathbattle gave Goku fanfic powers he never displayed

 

30 year old men btw