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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Gobb, Aug 14, 2020.

  1. Riker

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    Wow, that is petty. Saving humanity is more important.
     
  2. Blazing Storm Godly Member

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    Pettiness lol Modi promised Bihar 150,000 crore for development back in 2015 election but lost. His alliance won in 2020. He still hasn't released the money

    150000 crore should amount to like 20 billion USD I believe which is like 1/5th of Bihar GDP so not a promise he is gonna keep anyway
     
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  3. upsurge Revolutionary Pessimism

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    He promised to make India a manufacturing powerhouse that would not rely on Chinese imports, but Indian imports from China increased by 33% in his second term.

    There was also the whole Indian black money in Swiss banks bullshit; according to the Swiss National Bank (Switzerland's equivalent of the RBI) Indian holdings in Swiss banks tripled between 2014 and 2019 (from 6,700 crore to nearly 21,000 crore). Similar thing happened in Mauritius. India was also one of the few countries that saw no major busts or investigations in the wake of the Panama Papers scandal of 2016. There was an eyewash investigation and the matter was closed.

    The motherfucker also promised a strict anti-corruption ombudsman, but has left the Lokpal with effectively a skeleton crew and the RTI Act useless.

    Can you imagine if the Congress did the same things he's done? People would be railing against them for demolishing anti-corruption law in India, and calling them a party of anarchy.

    But now, the very same people who railed against the Congress on corruption will defend Modi like:
    The Lokpal has no honest officers to run things. The RTI Act was being abused by you Leftists to clog up the courts and tarnish Modi government's name.

    The shit these people say makes me want to vomit on their faces.
     
  4. Riker

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    The willing suspension of logic and truth.
     
  5. Shanks Legendary Member

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    I personally believe in minimal govt interference in my life.

    BJP did not change much from congress period from what i see. Only thing is strong reforms are hard in this country .China was willing to go through to that pain after Deng changed his policies. I honestly dont think any govt can change because people dont want to .

    Only way for india to develop is to adopt American capitalism structure if they need fast growth . Socialism is just myth word Venezuela tried this and see the result .

    India still is in midst of change I personally think modi is right person who can do this. (I personally dont like his religious polarization views but he seems to be right person who can do strong reforms taking backlash )

    Rahul Gandhi, Kejriwal are leftist they will drag india back to socialist era so think carefully whom you want to vote in future. Do you want to capitalism to flourish or want good old soviet era socialism congress did for 60 years.
     
  6. Shanks Legendary Member

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    Cannot blame him when half of the country dont pay taxes.

    Covid wrecked western economy as well. I wont put blame on him. He has not done enough reform I will agree to that.

    Modi is still doing lot of reform especially in EV segments and startup culture . I still think this govt needs to do lot but socialist and communist dont like wider reforms like workers law , land acquisition .

    Even Xi Jinping or Deng wont succeeded in india if reform are slow .

    CCP in china literally centralized everything and were willing to take pain when reformation started in 80s.

    I think modi is only person who can do this but at times he is scared to take the bullets when communist and socialist dont allow reforms to happen.

    Overall not sure with this current govt but dont expect Rahul Gandhi, Kejriwal will change this country if they are in power they will bring back good old soviet era policies created by Nehru and Indira Gandhi .
     
  7. Shanks Legendary Member

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    https://www.imf.org/EXTERNAL/PUBS/FT/ISSUES8/INDEX.HTM

    Read this IMF actually have answers to this that's why I think no govt in india will do this.

    I dont think anyone real has the ballz like Deng did .

    Xi jinping accelerated the growth in a decade investing on new technology , developing their own semiconductor and civil infrastructure.
     
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    Making manufacturing powerhouse is not play school. My pops runs electronic manufacturing industry you need lot of raw material , high productivity, flexible labour laws and greater efficiency.

    Govt has actually progressed in these things however the red tapes of good old india bureaucracy hinders lot of things . India is very much decentralized and Central govt cannot do much when the real power are in hands of tax officers.

    In China everything is simplified if tax officers in china harrased them or demands bribes . The system is very efficient in a way the CPC will find out because they hold the real powers .

    China basically won manufacturing power of this era. India woke up too late china upped the game.

    I think everyone here unanimously agree modi's govt is no different than good old congress regime. He still uses Dr Singh's economy policy.

    Why I think people still vote for modi ??

    There are many reason . Religious polarization is just part of it even with high inflation and unemployment. People still believe country needs a strongman and opposition looks very weak .

    Rahul Gandhi is not fit for politics, Kejriwal is too far left , I dont want to add regional leader they are no different.

    People still believe modi can do reforms . He is unfortunately doing at snail pace imo . The only part I dont like about him is pandering to polarization politics he seems to mastered the art in it lol . If he mastered art of faster reforms maybe he will be seen as next Deng.

    India definitely need strongman if Manmohan singh had qualities of strongman and had real powers he would have made country reach new heights.
     
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  9. Riker

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    Modi will only give you a job if you give him a vote.
     
  10. Riker

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    Kejriwal is a good option for me as I have shifted to the left in recent months. I am either voting for AAP or Congress.
     
  11. Blazing Storm Godly Member

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    Lol nope.
    You will get job if you are in CS field mostly. Modi is literally fuckin Bank employees despite it being one of its core vote base and that is something I know since many people in my family are both banker and blind Modi supporters
     
  12. Blazing Storm Godly Member

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    Probably becoz you don't live here. If you come here try visiting any small town you will realise the problem. The inflation is currently on different scale and its hitting middle class and poor very very hard. Cooking oil cost has doubled to tripled in last 2 to 3 years. LPG is being sold at ₹1000 up from ₹350 when Congress left power.

    American style capitalism will turn India into Russian oligarchy of very different scale which it is slowly becoming. World's largest cricket stadium in Gujarat is Named Narendra Modi stadium with two stands named Ambani and Adani.

    The reason Modi won 4 states this month is literally becoz of subsidy. The performance was so poor in every field that it doubled and tripled down on subsidy and food grains for poor and poorest.

    Rahul or Kejriwal are not leftist, they are opportunistic while Modi is also opportunistic he has also sold people the opium of religion which makes them blind followers and ignore any fault.
    Kejriwal is also peddling soft hindutva and nationalism BS so not a leftist.

    Socialism alone is not gonna work but unrestricted capitalism will turn India into slave labour market on something like China was but worse. India literally has zero laws for protection of workers. The exploitation will be on different scale with a bandage of worlds largest democracy every time someone criticizes it.
     
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  13. Riker

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    What is CS?
     
  14. Blazing Storm Godly Member

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    Computer science
     
  15. Riker

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    World's largest democracy

    That is used so much nowadays.
     

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