Manga Naruto/Boruto Discussion

Also funny how boruto got eliminated for using a device in chunin exam by his daddy who literally used kyuubi's chakra himself in chunin exam lmfao

Nvr heard the argument it was Boruto who utilized it correctly so it was a fair fight

 

He learned to tap it. Exactly. He didn't need to get possessed by the fox nor did he subconsciously let it's powerslip in due to his anger (which was the case with Haku) but he used it on it's own. Remember that tapping into it was a life or death trial (again, back when he was summoning the frog to save him from falling). Again, how is that unfair? You didn't respond to anything I said about the circumstances that resulted in Naruto having Kurama in the first place. If he were to control the chakra he'd end up in KCM, which is completely unnecessary for what he was doing in that fight (boost to stand against rotation and smart tactic to surprise Neji).

How did Neji's death prove people can't escape from their destiny? Perhaps he himself couldn't escape the curse mark, but as I said, he changed greatly as a character and even if he couldn't escape his cage that doesn't mean people in general cannot. Remember that his belief was that of fatalism, not just his own personal struggle.

 

Boruto got eliminated because the exam he undertook didn't allow ninja tools.

In the chunin exam Naruto took part in, Jinchurriki's were allowed to participate (hence why no one stopped any of his or Gaara's battles). Even as a matter of strict rules, Boruto should've been disqualified while Naruto was right to do as he did.

Again, there's a huge disanalogy between using a power you had no choice of possessing and which cost you a lot of "normal" opportunities and simply strapping on a neat device that does all the work for you with no drawbacks what so ever.

PS: There was a non-canon OVA in which the chunin exams didn't allow such power boosts like SM and Bijuu powers) and Naruto did get rightly disqualified. The thing is, those rules didn't apply back then.

 

**** why is it not getting edited

 

Eh no need. Two things to address:

1) Naruto's speech wasn't about hard work. It was about choosing one's destiny instead of being powerless to change it. Naruto using what you see as borrowed power isn't contradictory to that. Either way, he did train to do what he did back then as I said already.

2) You said it. Naruto being a transmigrant means he can choose if he will end the cycle or continue it. That's no longer fatalism. That's choosing your own destiny. Regardless, you're taking things out of context. Neji was talking about how Naruto is a failure and so he's doomed to stay a failure forever. That's what irked him. Naruto proved him wrong by moving out of being that noisy kid who sucked at everything to being the strongest ninja in existence. And no, that can't be dismissed as a result of Kurama or Ashura. He accomplished that both through his freedom of choice and his hard work.

 

Borrowing the power is not the problem
Saying hardwork beating genius without hardwork is

Its same as sasuke being hypocrite when using bijuu's power while bsing he would stop use of their power

Neh he did it becoz it was sasuke who he believe was same as him.
If sasuke would have killed someone closer to him and then he would have chose to end the cycle then it would have made sense

And technically sasuke was the one who broke the curse by accepting everything since what naruto did was exactly what hashirama did only difference was path madara and sasuke chose

 

Then theres no problem as thats not what his talk was about.

Not sure what you're refering.

I didn't go into the reasons for why Naruto chose as he did. My point was he made a choice. He was free to choose otherwise.

Also, I see no reason for such an arbitrary condition. Why would Sasuke need to kill anyone?

Both broke the cycle. That was the whole point. Two opposite sides coming together.

 

How ya'll can keep debating over this is beyond me

 

That Momoshiki's. Lol

 

Looks good

 

Just no.

 

Um... just yes.

It's a zoomed in perspective shot. It's supposed to look distorted like that.

 

Really? :

That Rinnegan looks terrible. How can someone have such huge eyes?

 

You don't know much about animation do you? That's a staple distortion for close up movement. Especially since this is an in-between frame which lasts for a fraction of a second.

You'd have to intentionally stop a sequence half way through to catch it.